Future echoeS

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SummarY

To speed up their journey to Earth, Red Dwarf enters lightspeed, but due to a cock-up of arrangements, the crew aren't in stasis when this happens, and begin to notice some peculiar events involving the wrong people at the wrong time - echoes of the future.

Lister is revealed to live to a fine old age and has two children, Jim and Bexley, one of whom is shown to die in a navicomp explosion. Meanwhile, the Cat breaks his tooth and Rimmer gets screwed out of knowing what happens to him in the future.


HighlightS

LISTER: What was that?
RIMMER: Brace yourself for a bit of a shock, Lister, but I just saw you die.
LISTER: What?!
RIMMER: I did warn you to brace yourself.
LISTER: You didn't give me much of a chance!
RIMMER: I gave you ample bracing time.
LISTER: No you didn't, you didn't even pause!
RIMMER: Well, I'm sorry. I've just had a rather nasty experience. I have just seen someone I know die in the most hideous, hideous way.
LISTER: Yeah, me!


RevieW

A fun little story. I quite like how despite immediately following the plot-heavy first episode which dealt with the rather strong topic of, well, the entire ship dying, it remains perky and upbeat, even when dealing with the future death of Lister and his son! I also kinda admire how the show just wastes no time at all in getting stuck into time-related nonsense; not quite time travel per se, but seeing the future and other whatnots. Some sci-fi usually waits a while before tackling it, but oh no, not Red Dwarf! They wouldn't "properly" time travel until later on, though they found a crafty way to achieve the same goal in series 2.

After the first episode being quite dense with practically every moment being relevant in some manner or way, it's almost a relief to just have an episode that takes its time and allows itself to throw in stupid gags that are worthless but amusing nonetheless - like the scene of Lister singing and getting insulted by Talkie Toaster, or using shaving cream in place of deodorant.

There's plenty of great, great interaction between Lister and Rimmer, such as Rimmer's whining about "you livies hate us deadies!" and what I'd probably consider the first unrestricted use of bunk scenes. Sure, the first episode had them, but I'm just speaking out of my ass to make crazy statements, man. Even just little things like Lister driving his bike around for, what, five seconds? - and singing those corny songs, it just adds a little bit of pizzazz to the matter, showing that despite everyone being dead and have little chance of reclaiming his original goals, he's still having fun.

Talkie Toaster appears a lot throughout the episode, and early on there's a vending machine with a lisp. The latter machine is cute and makes for silly prop comedy, but Talkie at this point wasn't utilized to the full extent, and if I may be honest, was kinda patronising. It seemed the writers planned to make machine comedy... not quite a 'big' part of the show, but have some prominence, as a talking toilet would make a quick (and suitably crap) gag in Balance of Power, but by series 2 they had all vanished, and mostly for the best.

Talkie Toaster would return in series 4 (excluding a deleted scene in series 2) to amusing effect with an entertaining new persona, and another talking vending machine would appear in series 8 and done fabulously, but for the most part it stuck with character humour instead - and I'm glad. It works better without random machines just chirping in.



Maybe it's just me looking too much into rather shallow plot points, but I always felt the point of Lister and the Cat going into stasis was dropped rather suddenly. Obviously because, well, when you can see the future when lightspeeding back to Earth probably pales in comparison, and the simple matter of there only being so much you can squeeze into 30 minutes, but... for instance, it begins with the emphasis being on Lister going into stasis until they return to Earth, and thus rounding up all their possessions and heading in, prompting the usual crack about the Cat's wardrobe and some angst from Rimmer over being left behind until they're ready to leave. Of course, once Lister has his odd encounter with Rimmer in the command room about déjà vu, all thought of stasis is forgotten about.

I admit I was originally concerned because for whatever reason I was under the impression they needed to be in stasis before they hit lightspeed, like, for the sake of their wellbeing - the ship has artificial gravity, but would the passengers necessarily be prepared to deal with the effects of lightspeed? Of course, given how it's said in series 2 the ship only has two stasis pods (even for only having less than two hundred people on board before it was retconned, it seems odd not having more when the ship is five miles long!), that's just me thinking stupidly and delving too much into fanwank.

It's probably a bad thing that I need to specifically point out foreshadowing rather than seeing it as a typical piece of all writing, but some gags with the Cat had some cute foreshadowing, such as his reaction upon seeing the dog in Lister's photograph and his attempt to catch himself a goldfish, which would both have mild significance later in the episode (well, the photographs in general, not the one of the dog); cute scenes for a character who hadn't gotten much spotlight in the previous episodes, and with the bonus of being plot relevant!

Likewise, the reactions to the future echoes are just great - Lister is concerned because he's going to friggin' die, while Rimmer... he's already dead so, pssh, what's he got to lose? His humming of a funeral march during Lister's brainstorming is just fantastic, but karma bites him in the ass when future-Lister disappears before he could tell him his future. I never knew what was up with Rimmer's hair at the end, though.


The first episode has got a lot on its plate to deliver, so theoretically the rest of the series could have taken it easy, but the second episode essentially shows the fate of the main character, achieving one of his dreams of having kids, and I suppose you could say it spoils the mystery of what eventually happens to him. It's a fun story that takes it time rather than cramming everything into the time slot, and has plenty of cute character moments.


Commentary highlightS

[referring to himself during the opening recap]
NORMAN: Look at that hair!
DANNY: That's exactly how we used to see him, innit? In the mornings. That is exactly what Norman looked like in the studio!
CHRIS: That little tuft of hair looks like it's been combed forwards, but looks like a bit you forgot to cut.
DANNY: You know what, you used to spend all this time combin' it! You didn't realise it, every time you combed it you lost a bit more!

CHRIS: In my audition, I auditioned for Lister.
CRAIG: How did that go?
CHRIS: I felt more comfortable doing Lister than I did doing Rimmer. I'm a natural slob anyway, but for some reason I don't come across as slobby.
DANNY: You got Rimmer because they said you look better in a wig.
CRAIG: You don't come across as slobby, what are you trying to say there?
CHRIS: Well, I think... you do. That's what I'm trying to say.
CRAIG: [laughter] Thanks very much!
NORMAN: Yeah, you're a natural slob.
CRAIG: Aw, guys!
CHRIS: You've got the sort of... body language--
NORMAN: Smoking, drinking--
CHRIS: --that helps to being a slob - I'm not saying you're a slob. I'm a bit too stiff, I suppose. I look more ordered.
DANNY: That was the best audition I ever did.
CRAIG: You were an hour late!
DANNY: I know, but I didn't know! That's why I was so good. If I'd known I was an hour late, I would've been sssssurely bad.
CHRIS: So when everyone went, "that's good," you thought they were saying "that's good, because you're late." So you were late from then on?
DANNY: I was relaxed because I thought I was early.
CRAIG: Paul Jackson, the producer at the time, had really fought my corn out for me to get this part, and I kept arriving late all the time - I always knew me lines, but, oh god, Paul was so angry with me. One time he pulled me - I was so late - he pulled me by the t-shirt, pulled me by the neck, and my t-shirt came off in his hands!
CHRIS: I never got the...
DANNY: You never got the Jacko treatment?
CHRIS: I got him right up close to me.
NORMAN: Yeah, I had that once. He had a short fuse.
CRAIG: I had a few run-ins with him. Remember when you [Danny] and me missed the plane, I think it was for this episode, we'd missed the plane and we were like two hours late! And when we arrived on set the whole of the crew hissed us! Paul Jackson gave me such a bawling! And then we had to go on coaches after that!

CRAIG: Norman, you read for Rimmer as well, didn't you?
NORMAN: Yeah. I was useless.
CRAIG: Who was Lister to your Rimmer?
NORMAN: Peter-Hugo Daly played Lister, and I read for Rimmer.
DANNY: He always played a nutter, di'n't he? Black hair?
NORMAN: Yeah, he normally does a seedy sort of report.
CRAIG: But he's quite good, actually, he's done a lot of Mike Lee (?) stuff and all that.
DANNY: Are you angry that Chris got it and you didn't?
NORMAN: Yeah I am, really.
CRAIG: [laughter] Secretly bitter.
DANNY: All your things normally comes out five years later, doesn't it? You're not going to come up next year and start hitting Chris? You hold it in for years and years and then you just explode.


Fanbase opinionS

The Japanese don't seem particularly enamoured with the episode (if under three hundred votes are enough to form a legit opinion on a foreign fanbase), as on the poll this episode was ranked the lowest, scoring only 6.5% of the vote. English fans seem to feel the opposite way about it, scoring it as the best episode of the series.Ganymede & Titan cite it as a fantastic second episode, claiming it's a fantastic story to keep watchers hooked and shows true confidence in its sci-fi setting for a comedy series, as well as being a stand-out top-notch episode in comparison to the rest of the series, which generally seemed rather shaky in getting used to the characters and whatnot.